Legislature(2007 - 2008)BELTZ 211

05/04/2007 01:30 PM Senate JUDICIARY


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= HB 19 LTD. DRIVER'S LICENSES/IGNITION INTERLOCK
Moved SCS CSHB 19(JUD) Out of Committee
= SB 145 MUNIS IMPOUND/FORFEIT MOTOR VEHICLE
Moved SB 145 Out of Committee
= SB 18 PROPERTY FORECLOSURES AND EXECUTIONS
Heard & Held
= SB 157 TRAFFICKING/PROSTITUTION/SEXUAL ABUSE
Heard & Held
    CSHB  19(FIN)-LTD. DRIVER'S LICENSES/IGNITION INTERLOCK                                                                 
                                                                                                                              
CHAIR FRENCH announced  the consideration of HB 19  and asked for                                                               
a motion to adopt Version \R.                                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
1:40:23 PM                                                                                                                    
SENATOR THERRIAULT motioned to  adopt Senate committee substitute                                                               
(CS)  for  CSHB  19,  Version \R,  labeled  25-LS0133\R,  as  the                                                               
working document before the committee.  There being no objection,                                                               
it was so ordered.                                                                                                              
                                                                                                                                
MIKE PAWLOWSKI, Aide to Representative  Kevin Meyer, advised that                                                               
the sponsor  wants him to  convey that merging the  two proposals                                                               
creates  a more  comprehensive program.  The pieces  of the  bill                                                               
that are intact  from the original version are  found in Sections                                                               
1  and 3.  Section 1  is clean  up language  related to  ignition                                                               
interlock  devices  in  the  tampering   statutes  Section  3  is                                                               
conforming language.                                                                                                            
                                                                                                                                
CHAIR FRENCH  explained that  Version\ R  combines Representative                                                               
Meyer's limited license interlock bill  and the interlock bill he                                                               
had been working  on. The limited license  interlock is available                                                               
on a  first, second  or third  DWI as  long as  the terms  of the                                                               
limited license haven't  been violated. Section 4  says if you've                                                               
violated the terms of the limited  license then it's no longer an                                                               
option.  The remaining  sections  deal  with ignition  interlocks                                                               
during the period of probation  for having been convicted of DWI.                                                               
Currently there  is a year  of interlock for a  first conviction,                                                               
two  years  for a  second  conviction,  three  years on  a  third                                                               
conviction, and  throughout the period  of probation  after that.                                                               
Also  there is  a uniform  standard for  where and  when ignition                                                               
interlocks  are   used.  Basically   that  tracks   the  person's                                                               
insurance requirements, he stated.                                                                                              
                                                                                                                                
1:43:10 PM                                                                                                                    
MR. PAWLOWSKI relayed that the  sponsor believes that the Chair's                                                               
interpretation of  how to deal  with smaller communities  and the                                                               
insurance  exemption  leads  to  a more  predictable  outcome  as                                                               
opposed to leaving it to the courts.                                                                                            
                                                                                                                                
CHAIR FRENCH stated  that it was a pleasure to  work with him and                                                               
Representative Meyer. He described this  as a bold new experiment                                                               
in DWI  prosecution because it  will require  ignition interlocks                                                               
for  every person  who is  convicted of  DWI. He  thanked Senator                                                               
Wielechowski for his  work on that idea. "It seems  to be working                                                               
in New Mexico  and Alaska has had a long  and tragic history…with                                                               
DWI, and there  doesn't seem to be any downside  to giving this a                                                               
go," he stated.                                                                                                                 
                                                                                                                                
MR. PAWLOWSKI  added that  the probation  lengths that  the Chair                                                               
put in  correspond well  with the  Department of  Public Safety's                                                               
letter  that  talks about  the  amazing  gains in  recidivism  in                                                               
Canadian provinces that  have a similar provision.  He noted it's                                                               
in the neighborhood of 80 plus percent.                                                                                         
                                                                                                                                
CHAIR FRENCH said we're all hopeful.                                                                                            
                                                                                                                                
1:44:28 PM                                                                                                                    
SENATOR  THERRIAULT   asked  him   to  clarify  whether   it's  a                                                               
recidivism rate of 80 percent or 80 percent of the people.                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
MR. PAWLOWSKI clarified that it's  a decrease in recidivism in 80                                                               
percent of the people.                                                                                                          
                                                                                                                                
SENATOR THERRIAULT asked about the fiscal impact.                                                                               
                                                                                                                                
MR. PAWLOWSKI said  HB 19 had a fiscal note  from the Division of                                                               
Motor Vehicles (DMV) relating to  producing a new license. In the                                                               
first  year the  impact is  $76 thousand  with personal  services                                                               
comprising   the   largest    component.   Contractual   services                                                               
represents programming for  the DMV data base that  would be done                                                               
in only  the first  year. Each  subsequent year  the cost  is $59                                                               
thousand, which is paid for by the application fees.                                                                            
                                                                                                                                
CHAIR FRENCH moved 25-LS0133\R.1 as  Amendment 1 and objected for                                                               
discussion purposes.                                                                                                            
                                                                                                                                
                                                 25-LS0133\R.1                                                                  
                                                    Luckhaupt                                                                   
                                                      7/11/09                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
                              AMENDMENT 1                                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
     Page 3, line 6, following "and":                                                                                           
          Insert ", when applicable,"                                                                                           
                                                                                                                                
CHAIR  FRENCH explained  that this  clarifies  that this  section                                                               
applies to  driving on  the road  system, which  he's using  as a                                                               
proxy for where  you have mandatory insurance and  where you have                                                               
to  have  the  interlocks.  "If   you  don't  have  to  have  the                                                               
interlock, you don't have to comply with this section."                                                                         
                                                                                                                                
SENATOR THERRIAULT asked  if he could get  around the requirement                                                               
by moving to a community that doesn't require an interlock.                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
CHAIR FRENCH said no.                                                                                                           
                                                                                                                                
MR. PAWLOWSKI added  that the key is  on page 3, line  4 where it                                                               
says  that  it  would  be  a  requirement  "whenever  the  person                                                               
operates a motor vehicle."                                                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
CHAIR FRENCH  explained that  he could  avoid the  requirement to                                                               
use an  interlock if  he moved  to a  small community  and stayed                                                               
there to operate his motor  vehicle where there is no requirement                                                               
to  have  insurance.  He  could  not  avoid  the  requirement  by                                                               
claiming to be  from that community because he got  a post office                                                               
box and registered his vehicle there.                                                                                           
                                                                                                                                
MR. PAWLOWSKI described the addition as clean-up language.                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
1:48:09 PM                                                                                                                    
CHAIR FRENCH  removed his  objection to  Amendment 1.  Finding no                                                               
further objection  he announced that  Amendment 1 is  adopted and                                                               
the  bill  is  back  before  the committee.  He  noted  that  the                                                               
effective   date  is   January  1,   2008.  Finding   no  further                                                               
discussion, he asked for a motion.                                                                                              
                                                                                                                                
1:48:54 PM                                                                                                                    
SENATOR  WIELECHOWSKI motioned  to report  SCS CSHB  19(JUD) from                                                               
committee  with individual  recommendations  and attached  fiscal                                                               
note(s). There being no objection, it was so ordered.                                                                           
                                                                                                                                
1:49:20 PM at ease.                                                                                                           
                                                                                                                                

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